DUTCH ANCELL 1964 - 1986 AIRCRAFT MECHANIC, LEAD AIRCRAFT MECHANIC MKC MCI To Ken Schultz Well, I finally retired last Feb from Alaska Air. We hooked up our 5th wheel and did some traveling for 3 months to Ohio & Oklahoma and on the way back we stopped at Tensleep,WY and visited Lyle & Gladys Mcgarvin, We had a great visit & he gave me your e-mail address. Lyle & I were swapping old stories about old FL days, I was telling him about the 580 that Dutch Ancell taxied into the bag carts at MKC, but, I couldn't remember the year or the tail number. I was on Dutch's afternoon crew and had been working on it for a day or two and went on my first day off or I would have been in the cockpit with Dutch. He lost his lead position as a result of the incident. Ken, if you could dig up the info, I would really appreciate it. -Dave Goad (9/24/05) Hi Dave, Your message came thru OK. I briefly looked up some info on the MKC, CV-580 incident this morning and have come up with some info. The CV-580 was N 73156. The incident was on January 6, 1972. -Ken Schultz (9/27/05) Convair 580 Prop Damage As seen on the front page of "The Kansas City Times" on Jan 6, 1972 Tony Worden sent the large news articles on 2/23/10. -Jake Lamkins (7/14/14) That baggage cart was all Air Freight. a lot of wood furniture as I remember. This was at Gate 2, I was working a flight at Gate 6. A large piece of the cart trailer hitch went thru the window of the Holiday Inn day just across tge tracks. -Al Toll (7/16/14) Carl was nearly hit by a piece of the prop - it came within inches of his head - he was standing at the regulator. Dutch was in the left seat - starting the engines. The driver of the cart pulled up and parked after Carl closed the door and before Dutch started the engines. The cart was right below the cockpit - out of view from the cockpit window. They went thru Frontier and FAA investigations - with a pilot testifying that the cart was not there when the mechanics closed the plane up. Dutch got 30 days off without pay. They determined that the baggage cart driver was at fault. The emotional distress that both mechanics suffered was intense - I can attest to that because I saw it first hand. Carl is my husband. It was over 40 years ago - we can't remember the driver's name - and Carl says he thinks he was fired. It was a very stressful time in our lives and Carl and Dutch never got over it. The port side prop came off, flew under the plane and hit the starboard prop and threw piece of it into the area between the cockpit and cabin where Carl was standing. They were getting ready to taxi out to do a run-up because of an engine problem. Part of the plane, baggage cart and it's contents flew everywhere - even across the highway from the airport into the Holiday Inn. How no one was injured (physically) is a miracle. The engine shut down on impact. Carl said it's a wonder the plane did not catch fire. Both Carl and Dutch spoke shortly before Dutch died (about 12 years ago) and remembered it like it had happened days before. They were not friends before that happened - didn't really like each other much. But something that traumatic tends to bring people closer. Carl became a close friend of Dutch and they worked together until Dutch died. Carl has never been able to really get over the incident. All he could think about was how many people could have been hurt or killed. Both of them were very conscientious and good mechanics. Visions of it ran thru Carl's head for months. It really affected him. Dutch stayed angry for a very long time. Seeing that article really brought up old memories. Thankfully, after that incident, Frontier started having someone stand outside the planes to make sure there wasn't a repeat of the whole incident. It wasn't the first time something like that happened. Very few people (inside the system or out) ever knew the actual facts. It's easy to ignore or forget unless you are involved. Every airline accident is like a family tragedy. You will always relive the details when it comes up in a conversation. The term PTSD applies to many situations. Carl was only ever hurt once on the job after that - when he was hit by a tug and pinned between a tug and a baggage cart in Houston working for USAir at IAH. Another traumatic incident. How he has lived for 74 years is something neither of us can explain. -Kippy Lindsey (Combination of several Facebook postings.) (2/11/16) Earl Foote, James( Dutch) Ancell and Bob Cornelius were all hired for a DC3 heavy check crew at MKC along with quite a few from GSW. Waymon Williams was the foreman. There was an incident around 71 or 72 when a mechanic taxied a 580 into a bag cart full of wooden furniture parts bound for FSM ? That was Dutch Ansell. It was just before I moved from FSM to MKC. Quite a mess. -Bill Guthrie (10/11/16) J "DUTCH" E ANCELL MCI mechanic Died Nov 21, 2000, age 59, at Charlotte, NC DOB Mar 4, 1941 DOH CEN Oct 4, 1964 per Ken Schultz' We Remember database. -Jake Lamkins (10/26/16) FLacebook - FL Club FLight West: Dutch Ancell MKC MCI aircraft mechanic Dutch Ancell's memorial webpage has been upgraded: http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Dutch_Ancell.html Still need an obituary and photo for Dutch. -Jake Lamkins (10/30/16)