DALE GLENN 1973 - 1978 PILOT DEN Was wondering if anyone knew the names of the crewmembers who lost thier lives in the Otter accident at PUB. The reason I ask, somone once said that a relative/brother of John Glenn was killed in the crash. Seemed far fetched, but then again? The Otter was training at PUB, and was doing a full flap "Go-Around".... the Otter pitched up,stalled and went in just east of 26R. I have the info that it was S/N 465...Crashed 18 Jan 78. How ironic to be thinking about this, considering it was just the 21st anniversary of the accident. Could it really be 21 Years? I have the FL Otter fleet as follows... N980FL S/N 402 N981FL S/N409 N982FL S/N 465 N983FL S/N 339 All were -300 Models. The only one I know the current whereabouts of is N981FL. It is now N148SA. Scenic Airlines out of LAS and GCN, flying the "Ditch" Was he of any relation to Astronaut/Senator John Glenn? -James Baumann (1/22/99) DHC-6 accident at PUB If he was, I didn't know about it or am so senile I can't recall that. The "Otter" captain was Jack Howell, the f/o was Denny Meyers, a new-hire. Dale Glenn was observing as he was going to check out as a DHC-6 instructor pilot. Ironically, Dale was a very high-time Otter pilot as was Denny Meyers. I used to fly with Dale a lot in the Otter, but Jack was relatively inexperienced in that aircraft. The aircraft was not on a go-around. They had just completed the training event for Meyers and were going to demonstrate a STOL takeoff. The factory recommended use of 20 degrees of flaps while we (improperly) used flaps 40 and "chased" VMC (single engine control speed) which was 65 knots. However, if you used flaps 40, set the power and released the brakes and rotated the aircraft would un-stick very quickly and feel very much like it was rising vertically. Then it would "plane out" at 2-300 feet and you would have to unload the elevators to maintain 65 knots for VMC. There is no way to prove conclusively what happened, but I feel that the accident was exacerbated by a thin layer of ice that was present on the wings and that someone made a pitch moment change AFTER the elevators were initially unloaded. The results was a whip stall at too low an altitude for any possible recovery. I participated in the investigation and possess the photographs of the accident. I flew that aircraft for several years and feel qualified to make an assessment. I hasten to add that no one will ever know for sure on this one. I knew Dale pretty well and flew several months with him in the -300 out of DEN. Great guy and excellent pilot. -Billy Walker (1/23/99) Jack Howell, Denny Meyers, and Dale Glenn Died January 18, 1978, Pueblo, CO. -Ken Schultz (4/24/99) Ron Farquer 5-27-68, Adj 4-16-71, born 6-29-42, died 1-13-84 (asphyxiation). Dale Glenn 5-3-73 10-3-73, 10-12-42 1-18-78 (DHC6 PUB) John Deahl 7-1-74 12-9-74 12-21-44 4-9-81 (P38 crash) Denny Meyer 1-3-78 1-3-78 12-7-43 1-18-78 (DHC6 PUB) D.E. Klock 5-1-78 5-1-78 10-30-45 2-28-79 I am not sure when this list was constructed, but I would think in 1986. So, unfortunately, there have been other "Gone West's" since. Hope this is helpful. -Billy Walker (9/12/03) Dale's Uncle is Astronaut/Senator John Glenn -Frank Meyer (9/28/03) DL GLENN, ALPA# 0451039 DOB 10/12/42 DOH 01/01/73 (appears to be an error) DIED 01/18/78 per FL ALPA List. DALE GLENN Pilot seniority date of 5/3/73 per Walker's email. -Jake Lamkins (9/25/12) Dale Lester Glenn (1942 - 1978) Born on 12 Oct 1942 to Howard Campbell Glenn and Bernice Cleland. He passed away on 18 Jan 1978. -http://records.ancestry.com/Dale_Lester_Glenn_records.ashx?pid=38177171 (9/25/12) Posted at FLacebook and the FL Club: DEN Pilot Dale Glenn's memorial webpage has been upgraded. http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Dale_Glenn.html Nine items added but still need a photo and obituary. -Jake Lamkins (9/27/12) Dale Glenn was a great guy and a light-up-the-room smile. It was a tragic event for our little airline. -Sharon Trumble (5/27/19)