GLEN GETTMAN 1949 - 1976 STEWARD, STATION AGENT, RESERVATIONS AGENT, CREW SCHEDULER, PILOT DEN Glen Gettman (Gone West) who also was a steward and then later hired as copilot and eventually made Captain. Mentioning Glen Gettman reminds me of a time when there was an Airline Stewardess beauty contest. Since we (at Monarch) didn't have females but had Stewards instead - we entered Glen in the Contest. We fixed his hair up with a wig, put make up on him, short skirt, lipstick, etc and entered him as 'Glena Gettman" and lo and behold...he was in the running!!!! Bob Serling, the former UPI reporter and author of many aviation books (The President's Plane Is Missing', "The Left Seat", etc., etc.), remembers that 'contest' very well. When I talked to him last and asked if he would write the FOREWORD for my book, he said he would, "...only if..." I mention that 'beauty contest' in my book. -Ace Avakian (9/19/99) Lead photo received from Al Kendell. -Jake Lamkins (3/2/00) The agents at the Denver station had loaded a half dozen cardboard boxes filled with baby chicks in the forward cargo hold to keep them warm during their transport to Phoenix. Glen Gettman was my copilot, and we had commenced our let down into the Phoenix area when we heard chirping that was becoming louder. Looking down we discovered a brood of baby chicks running around on the deck and under our seats. They had escaped from a damaged box. About this time the stew opened the door to enter, and many of the baby chicks took off down the aisle between the passenger seats. The passengers were good natured about it, and after we landed they helped us gather the chicks and place them back in the box. -Tex Searle in his book The Golden Years Of Flying (10/18/04) Hired 6/49 Stn. Agt. Alamosa for $150 per mo., 6 day wk,8 hr. shifts. Capt. Geo. Meshko flew me to Pueblo in an open cockpit PT-19 to Watch the Blue Angels in prop F8 aircraft. (Better than Jets) Capt. Army Armstrong arrived early came into the Stn. Tuned the radio To HF Freq. Had me listen to an ATC Clearance, and told me I had better Be able to recite a clearance the next time he came thru. Jim Montgomery,Dir. Of Stns. Called Mgr. Stamey to fire both agents Tom McAfee and myself for visiting on the teletype for 20 mins. The Day before as all msgs went to all teletypes, we apologized and stayed on. Using the Official Airline Guide foo Schedules and Fares over our local Stn. Phone and teletype for reservations was an awesome experience. Transferred to Grand Junction Nov.49 and flew Steward 3days a wk. RT GJT/ABQsometimes missed conn. In Durango so onto DEN with RON At the Argonaut Hotel. Rode observer with Geo. Graham and Glen Gettman Practicing under hood at Stapelton, both became Capts. On my second FIt. I went to the cockpit and asked if it was true that the Pilots and stews sometimes shared the same bed and was told of coarse, That CO and TW stews were even waiting in their rooms on layover in ABQ. It took me a little while to realize how my leg had been pulled by the best Two pullers on the airline, Art Ashworth and Ace Avakian. -Duane Phelps (2/6/06) The FARPA newsletter shows Glen "gone west" 8/85. G C GETTMAN, Pilot seniority date of 8/13/52 on the 9/1/72 FL/ALPA seniority list. The Apr 1974 article shows Glen with 22 years which is correct. Both the 1976 and 1977 articles err in saying he had 27 years with FL. It would have been 24 years from 1952 until 1976. If someone has more info on this or anything else about Glen, let me know. -Jake Lamkins (1/29/10) Posted at the FL Club: Subject: Updated memorial webpage GLEN GETTMAN 1952 - 1976 PILOT DEN http://LAMKINS.tripod.com/Glen_Gettman.html Several new items added for Glen. Post your remembrances. -Jake Lamkins (1/30/10) You may already have this; I didn't find it on the web site. Shortly after I hired on with CN in '57, I heard a story about Glen and I think read an article about it later. At first CN did not have stewardesses, but had pursers that were male. Glen held that position at the time. I think it was local, in Ft. Worth, the airlines had a stewardess beauty contest. Not to be left out, Glen entered, representing CN, in a dress,wig and wings, as "Glenna Gettman" CN stewardess. As I recall he came in at second place. Jack Curtis should have a better remembrance than me, as he was there at the time. -Bill Guthrie (1/31/10) Thanks, Bill, I had heard that story long ago but forgotten about it. I forwarded your email to Jack to see what he recalled. Thanks, -Jake Lamkins (1/31/10) Hi Jack, Do you recall this incident? Do you know when Glen started? Hope you are well. Jake Lamkins (1/31/10) Ramona Nelson I flew with Glen Gettman often - he was a great guy full of fun who always tried to embarrass us gals....and he did. You had to learn to give it right back to him.. Pat Williams-harter Remember the 'Tiger Lounge'(I think that's what it was) (in MKC) he'd have debriefings there, with his sketchbook- required to attend! It wasn't the Muelbach but one nearby! (2/12/15) He started at Monarch. G C GETTMAN DEN co-pilot Per the Nov 1955 employees roster. ------------------------------- G C GETTMAN DEN co-pilot DOB 3/22/28 DOH 3/23/49 Per the Feb 1960 employees roster. ------------------------------- G C GETTMAN Emp# 03088 DEN captain DOB 3/22/28 DOH 3/23/49 Per the Dec 1970 employees roster. ------------------------------- G C GETTMAN DEN pilot Sen # 087 Sick Leave 1/1/75 Per the Apr 1975 Pilot Domicile List. I found an article about him and the stewardess beauty contest in the Sum 1977 FL Magazine, p.22. The May 1976 article announced his retirement. His name is spelled Glen and Glenn in the records. I'll use Glen since the social security record has it that way. -Jake Lamkins (4/9/21) FLacebook: Jake Lamkins uploaded a file. Pilot Glen Gettman, aka Glenna Gettman, placed third in a FA beauty contest in Feb 1950. Article from the Sum 1977 Frontier magazine. Jake Lamkins Here's a photo of the event. Who knew Ray Wilson had such a sense of humor? It would probably be considered politically incorrect today. Shari Oliver Salsbury Thx U for posting, Jake. I heard about this when I started flying 2/65. Glen was a great pilot & had a wonderful sense of humor! An absolute delight to fly with!!! Ramona Nelson I remember him telling us all about his beauty contest! Loved to fly with him! Stella Chapman Sleater I too remember the story. Glenn was great as Glenn or Glenna! He should have won 1st place!!! Bonnie Dahl He was a great guy! Patty Hughes Smith He was such a great Captain and always had his crews back! (4/13/21) Lynn Osadchuk Yes Captain Glen was one of the best! Loved flying with him. Steve Tidler What a great story, Jake! Thanks for sharing ! (4/14/21) Don Porter I called him Glenna a few times. He smiled each time! (4/21/21) FLacebook Frontier Memorial Webpage Updated GLEN GETTMAN 1949 - 1976 STEWARD, STATION AGENT, RESERVATIONS AGENT, CREW SCHEDULER, PILOT DEN http://LAMKINS.tripod.com/Glen_Gettman.html Overhauled his webpage and added a dozen new items. -Jake Lamkins (9/23/21)