TURK GROSS 1961 - 1984 PILOT GSW DAL DFW DEN E B GROSS Pilot seniority date of 2/20/61 on the 9/1/81 FL/ALPA seniority list. He is not on the 1985 list. Found his captain's hat for sale at ebay.com today. Websearch found only a few items. There was a baseball player Ewell "Turkey" Gross, 1896-1936, who may have been his father. -Jake Lamkins (2/11/10) EWELL B GROSS Born 31 Dec 1932 Died 16 Dec 2006 Age 73 At 75228 (Dallas, Dallas, TX) SSN issued inTexas -SSDI (2/11/10) Email to Ebay.com seller: Where did you get the hat? I worked with Captain Gross at Frontier Airlines. Has he passed away? -Jake Lamkins (2/12/10) I bought from man at canton flea market and he bought from a estate sale here in Dallas - electricantique (2/12/10) Posted at the FL Club and sent to CN pilots: I noticed yesterday a FL captain's hat for sale at Ebay.com. (It sold for $93.88) It has E.B. Gross DFW inside it. I asked the seller about it and they said it was bought at an estate sale in Dallas. Checking the Social Security index I found EWELL B GROSS 31 Dec 1932 16 Dec 2006 (V) 75228 (Dallas, Dallas, TX) issued in Texas Does anyone have any info on Ewell and his possible death in 2006? His CN hire date is 2/20/61 and he is on the 1981 FL/ALPA seniority list but not the 1985 list. Any info appreciated, -Jake Lamkins (2/12/10) The Oct 1, 1964 CN Domiciles List shows Ewell Gross as first officer based in GSW. -Jake Lamkins (2/12/10) We all knew him as "Turk" Gross except Max Gardner who nicknamed him "Over". A really nice guy as I remember him. -Frosty Frost (2/12/10) I am sure you will get plenty of responses about Captain "Turk" Gross. I first met Turk when he was an F/O on the 737 and I was a new hire "backseater" based out of DFW. I later flew with him in his previous seat, as he had progressed to the left seat of the 737. Turk was always fun to fly with, and reminded me of the "consummate Aggie", and I have no idea if he was one or not. In the early 80's I was walking down the concourse at DFW headed for the credit union office and looked up to see Turk coming in the opposite direction. I had heard that he had had a heart attack the week prior and was astounded to see him walking like nothing had happened. When we got inside the credit union, everyone (a small crowd had gathered) was all ears to hear the details of this previous week's events. His response was simple and to the point. He had had "A little dying spell" and "that was all there was to it." Actually he had a full explanation of how he was following his wife out of the bedroom and "the lights went out." He woke up some time later, realized that he was "plumbed and wired" but there didn't seem to be anyone around who seemed concerned, so he went back to sleep. He told of the ambulance attendant who stopped by to see him and asked him if he remembered their conversation enroute to the hospital? Turk said he didn't remember ever having seen the guy before. He didn't remember the next door neighbor's son who was a Boy Scout, doing CPR on him until the ambulance arrived. His biggest complaint was that the Doctor had said that with whatever procedure they had done on him (possibly an angioplasty or similar) he had the heart of a 35 year old and they were trying to kill him to get the body in the same shape. For years after this event, Turk reveled in telling these and many other tales, and reminiscing with the old Central and Frontier guys around DFW. I always enjoyed seeing Turk. He would have some new story to regale you with, and there never seemed to be what could have easilly been a taste of sour grapes or negativism. I hope many others will pass their thoughts and memories on to you and the FL Family. Have a good weekend and President's Holiday. I will be down in the DFW Snow Bowl trying to recover from a little "plumbing modI had done last week. I should be back up to full speed in 3 to 4 weeks. It's amazing how all of these guys I have spent the past 45 years with manage to recouperate from all this foolishness. They are truly an inspiration to us junior guys. -Jack "Beetle" Bailey (2/12/10) Found donation at Methodist Children's Home magazine, Spring 2005 issue. -Jake Lamkins (2/16/10) Possibly his wife, same zip as Ewell above: JERRA J GROSS 05 Oct 1929 21 May 2004 (V) 75228 (Dallas, Dallas, TX) SSN issued in Texas -SSDI (2/16/10) OBITUARY GROSS, EWELL B. "Turk", A Loving husband and father born December 31, 1932 in Mesquite, TX and passed away December 16, 2006 in Dallas, TX. Proceeded in death by loving wife of 49 years Jerra Jane Evans, parents Ewell "Turkey" and Novella Gross. Survived by son Bob Gross and special friend Sherrie Myers, faithful canine companion Val and other family and friends. Mr. Gross grew up in Mesquite and graduated from Mesquite Schools in 1950. He then went to Texas A&M University where he graduated in 1955. After that he joined the Air Force and served 5 years and after his discharge he flew for Central and Frontier Airlines and retired in 1984. In lieu of flowers please make donations to Methodist Children's Home, 1111 Herring Ave. Waco, TX 76708 or the charity of your choice. Family will receive friends from 6-8 PM on Wednesday at the Funeral Home. Funeral Services will be 2 PM on Wednesday in the Funeral Home Chapel with internment to follow at Restland Memorial Park in Dallas, TX. In the Dallas Morning News on December 19, 2006 - retreived from their archives -Jake Lamkins (2/16/10) This is just too close for it not to be true. Was our own Turk Gross the son of Ewell "Turkey"Gross who was a baseball player? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_Gross -Donna Harrison (2/17/10) Yes, Donna, it is him and Turkey was his father. I found his obituary in the Dallas News archives and have started on his memorial webpage. His wife died two years before him. -Jake Lamkins (2/17/10)